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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:02 pm
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Since our main topic for Suckerpunch #5 this upcoming Tuesday is dishonesty and liars, I thought I'd start a pre-show thread to talk about the major news over the past few days.

Alberto Gonzales screwed the pooch and Congress is on his ass like white on rice.
What insanity could possibly possess a person to boldfaced LIE to Congress in sworn testimony? Worse, what utter lunacy could make the Attorney General of the United States flat-out lie to Congress under oath? Answer: Bush, Cheney and David Addington.
Alberto Gonzales, you slimy fuck, you've been caught. You were even given the chance to revise your testimony the moment you said it, but you stuck to your story and now they've found documented evidence of what you've done. I have no doubt whatsoever that Gonzales is under massive pressure from Cheney and Addingtion to do what he's doing and, let's face it, Cheney's proven a zillion times over his 38 year career that he's not someone to fuck with. So, I imagine that Gonzales is much more afraid of Dick Cheney than of a Congressional hearing and any penalty it could impose. Another perfectly framed illustration, among dozens of others, of how the current administration is rabidly out of control.

What enrages me most about it is that the whole gang will most likely walk out of office next year basically unscathed and unpunished. There are a couple of exceptions, scapegoats (I think Gonzales was groomed and setup to be a fall guy long before he was ever appointed to Attorney General), but the real people at the helm will go home with their pensions, lifetime protection by the Secret Service and, worst of all, with their freedom intact.

While I'm ranting, a couple of quotes from Thomas Jefferson that are incredibly appropriate:

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"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429

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"An enlightened people, and an energetic public opinion... will control and enchain the aristocratic spirit of the government." --Thomas Jefferson to Chevalier de Ouis, 1814. ME 14:130



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:40 pm
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Another topic of Liars in the Media I would like to discuss is Sylvia Browne. She is a regular on the Montel Williams show and has been caught as a psychic fraud on multiple ocassions and continues to charge for her reading **and continues to be prominently featured on the Montel Williams show!**

http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/home/


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:31 am
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Required viewing for the show!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

Jon Stewart takes on CNN's Crossfire. It's old (almost 3 years ago now), but his words are truth!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:44 am
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More Jon Stewart - Old, but Fox News with Bill O'Reilly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5pK7sK0 ... ed&search=


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